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July 31, 2017 at 4:42 am #5962ImporterImportee1Member
I’m hoping this is a common question with an easy answer. I am modeling a MP transfer caboose in KC in the 60s/70s that was painted red. The red was a perfect match for the red inside the buzzsaw herald.
I’ve searched high and low and cannot find a paint called out as matching that MP caboose red.
The MRH paint database gives different paints under the color name “Caboose Red”. I haven’t tried any of them. I’m hoping someone has already done this cand can save me the trials.
Here’s the link to their database:
Thanks.
September 25, 2017 at 6:54 pm #8473ImporterImportee1Member@[email protected] wrote:
I’m hoping this is a common question with an easy answer. I am modeling a MP transfer caboose in KC in the 60s/70s that was painted red. The red was a perfect match for the red inside the buzzsaw herald.
I have painted test swatches of “Caboose Red” and “Vermillion Red” and found that Vermillion Red is the closest match to the red of the buzzsaw logo. It’s a little dark and will need to be lightened up with some white.
On the transfer caboose, I am confused as to what was the covering on the windows?? It is painted red, but isn’t solid red. It may be a screen, but I see it is not on the openings on the doors. And why would someone have painted the screen? I don’t paint my screens on my house, for example.
Can anyone help me and identify the material?
Thank you.
September 26, 2017 at 12:03 pm #8476peggyrothschildParticipantInstead of using white to lighten the red you might use yellow instead. White would give you a pinkish hue.
October 2, 2017 at 4:31 pm #8482clemmie_doris12ParticipantI just finished restoring an ICC EV caboose, number 13569. You can see my posts in another message thread in this forum. Choosing a proper color was very important.
I was able to get a good sample of the paint that was under the sill stripe. I matched it to a chip off of another cab and came to the determination that Imron Safety Red was a near perfect match. I cannot locate the paint chips that I made up for models, but, as I recall, Tru-Color Caboose Red was a match to the Imron color chip that I had. If I were to paint a scale model I would definitely use that color.
It is important to keep in mind that, over the years, different brands of paint were used. That would definitely create variations in color. Also, there are variations between batches made by the same supplier. My caboose was repainted in 1981 at Sedalia, so it was probably slightly different in color than when it was first built.
I hope this helps.
October 2, 2017 at 4:39 pm #8483clemmie_doris12ParticipantI am going to guess that the material over the windows on the transfer cab is expanded metal. It was more than likely applied to protect against rocks and other “missiles.” This would explain why it was painted. There would have been no need to paint regular window screen.
October 2, 2017 at 7:10 pm #8484ImporterImportee1Member@Trainmaster wrote:
I was able to get a good sample of the paint that was under the sill stripe. I matched it to a chip off of another cab and came to the determination that Imron Safety Red was a near perfect match. I cannot locate the paint chips that I made up for models, but, as I recall, Tru-Color Caboose Red was a match to the Imron color chip that I had. If I were to paint a scale model I would definitely use that color.
It is important to keep in mind that, over the years, different brands of paint were used. That would definitely create variations in color. Also, there are variations between batches made by the same supplier. My caboose was repainted in 1981 at Sedalia, so it was probably slightly different in color than when it was first built.
I hope this helps.Kevin, I have read your posts about your restoration project of 13569 and admired it from afar. Thank you for the advice about using TC Caboose Red as a spot-on match for my transfer caboose model.
I need to balance the requirements of a perfect color match to the prototype body color (TC Caboose Red) vs. obtaining a perfect match of the model body to the red in the model buzzsaw decals.
I’ll paint up two test swatches of TC Caboose Red and TC Vermillion Red and place buzzsaw decals on each. I will report on the results for those that are interested.
Again, thank you for weighing in! -
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