Building a MP 112000, 113000, 114000 Flour car

[peggyrothschild]

Many of the ART steel reefers were converted to flour cars after the demise of the ice reefer. Thinking the MPHS Company Store could offer a mini-kit with a new roof, freight car door, new side sill and decals all the modeler would need is the InterMountain ART steel reefer.

Looking for some photos showing the details of these cars and the various lettering so we can have some decals made up if this turns out to be a viable project. If you have photos please post them in this topic.

[mopac]

When have these cars been rebuild and how long have these cars been in service ?

[peggyrothschild]

Joerg
Here’s the only MP diagram I could locate and it’s dated 1972. Cars were around well into the mid to late 1970’s. They were pretty distinctive looking cars being short in height compared to the other 40′ cars, very large buzz saws on the right of the car and stencilled ‘FOR FLOUR LOADING ONLY’. I saw lots of them in Kansas City sitting around General Mills. Once we get some photos posted we can see of the InterMountain is close to the photos.

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[kenris]

Charlie and all,

Looks as if there were 3 groups of ART cars converted plus two groups of second-hand cars bought from Packers Car Line and FGEX.
112000-599 were converted 1968-71, from ART series 91300-699 (391300-699, TRAX 12000-599)
112600-946 were converted 1971-72 from ART 39000 series
113085-332 were converted 1972 from ART series 37000-249
114000-226 were converted from second hand PCX 4000-4399, originally built 1957
114330-114679 were converted from second hand FHIX 41241-640, built 1956

Dick Ryker

[mopac]

Here is a picture of MP 112175. Photo taken by Steve McVey in Springfield, Missouri on September 22, 1975.

[kenris]

I don’t think this has been previously mentioned, but the large side door was to allow fork-lifts in the car. The floors may have been stiffened to allow this type of use.

Dick Ryker

[madonnasuffolk30]

I believe these cars were previously done in HO scale by TM of ILL as I have one of the kits. I haven’t built it yet, but it’s a very basic athearn blue-box style kit. I would be interested in the car if the Intermountain car is used as a base. Below are the diagrams I was able to pull from the 1976 diagrams plus a few photos of cars in the 114000 series. I have more photos of these cars. Some of the photos are from the early 80s so they lasted that long, but I think they were retired 1982-1985 time frame.

[madonnasuffolk30]

Two of the photos that didn’t load.

[madonnasuffolk30]

Best roof photos that I have. Ron Hawkins and an ebay grab. Looks like new end sections?

[peggyrothschild]

Nate
Thanks for the two overheads. We’ll see where this goes next. I need to study the InterMountain car and see if we can make it work.

[princessclyne69]

Here’s the first one I saw, and practically the only one I shot, because I wanted older cars.

Beware of doing decals, because almost every one of them has some sort of horribly botched buzzsaw, some almost as bad as those on some HO models 😯 One of Nate’s photos shows a normal one, but in my recollection those are rare. Either they’re a squashed oval, or a much wider distance from the buzzsaw to the OD, or the lettering inside the buzzsaw is an odd style, or it’s entirely off center like some of the junk you see on eBay. The photos posted so far show all of those variations.

I’d be interested in how these would be done, since most originated from ART cars with the horizontal rivet line. As for the roof hatches, I seem to remember seeing one from overhead in which the pressed steel parts of the hatch were cut out and a flat plate welded in, in other words just a flat rectangular buttweld.

Ron Merrick

[princessclyne69]

See also Dorin’s MoPac Freight Trains and Equipment, p. 61. This one and one of Nate’s photos illustrate the FHIX (Fruit Growers) cars, which were five-panel sides without the horizontal seam.

Ron Merrick

[madonnasuffolk30]

A few more photos of the cars surfaced on Fallenflags. These are Jim Parker photos.

Nate

[peggyrothschild]

Am thinking we might have a break through on building of of these cars. Stan Rydarowicz makes several kits of the new 1950 era ART cars with the right ends and roof. I’m going to order ART 29000-29499 built in 1952 which became MP 112600-113084. We’ll see where this goes next.

[peggyrothschild]

Received the 1952 version of the ART car yesterday from Stan. It has the correct sides, roof and ends for the ART cars that were rebuilt into boxcars. Now looking through my spare parts box for an 8′ door I can use. I thought the model used the base Intermountain carbody but the sides are resin so it’s a more involved building process. I’ll be building a car from the MP 112600-113084 group. Photo below is MP 112213 as reference for the model.

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