[Thomas Hoback]

The Mansard roof on the first ‘laff of the day’ (the brass caboose) is a nice touch.

Pat H

[Thomas Hoback]

Only if the Coast Daylight is equipped with GOTransit-style bi-level cars and punctuated with a brass-rail heavyweight observation car.

I enjoy these Laffs of the Day, Pat. Hope you continue to keep your eyes open for them.

Pat Hiatte

[Thomas Hoback]

These look great. Presume they’re HO?

Pat Hiatte

[Thomas Hoback]

A Frisco ex confirming Ron’s 1965 date for the mandarin orange (which my boss at the Frisco always referred to as mandarin red) and white paint scheme. The black and gold was still around, though, when I came on the scene in late 1974, mostly on switch engines that had had their original prime movers replaced with EMDs.

Pat Hiatte

[Thomas Hoback]

It’s a great resource, Gary, but anyone considering a purchase should note that it only lists customers at points served by more than MoPac Lines. California, Mo., which I model, for example, is not listed, since it was only served by MP.

Pat Hiatte
New Bloomfield, MO

[Thomas Hoback]

Don’t have access to a 1963 employee timetable, but it appears from the one effective May 1, 1962, that the line between Lincoln and Union was operated by timetable and train order. Yard limits were in effect at numerous points. No indication of any signals between Eagle and Weeping Water. Hope this helps.

[Thomas Hoback]

Makes sense to me. Chris?

@cduckworth wrote:

Pat and Chris
After the HO set is finalized would it make more sense to do a N scale Jenks era passenger set with numbers, buzz saws and the 3″ stripe?

[Thomas Hoback]

Intriguing! How much per set would the MPHS member price be if we ordered the 15-set minimum?
I’d have to tally up how many I’d need. Chris, and you HO folks who would use them on vehicles, how about you?

@cduckworth wrote:

We’d have to have enough N scale sets to make it worthwhile I normally order 15 sets minimum. To complicate matter Hubert normally does two cars in each set. So can you and Chris get enough orders?

[Thomas Hoback]

Ditto, Chris.
Pat Hiatte

@mopac06 wrote:

Charlie, next time you talk to Hubert, would you see if he can do N scale decals. I could use some for the car being discussed. Thanks, Chris Mueller

[Thomas Hoback]

Looks to me like an eastward train at Dow, just west of Tipton, Mo., which I think you can see in the background. US Highway 50 is to the right.

[Thomas Hoback]

Looks to me like an eastward train at Dow, just west of Tipton, Mo., which I think you can see in the background. US Highway 50 is to the right.

[Thomas Hoback]

@steve503 wrote:

Hubert of Mask Island Decals has several N sets. I think there are 40 and 50 ft box cars among others. I have talked to him about doing some sheets of just numbers, for the various 50 ft box cars, some flats and gons that I need multiple numbers for. A few “MP” and maybe a buzz saw or two but mostly just numbers. Anybody else interested in something like that? My thought was to have all unique numbers and buy three or four sheets to make sure I got two on successfully. Still don’t have a price, but it would probably be better if there were a few of us. I need mostly white numbers for MoPac, but I need black and white for Frisco. If I could get this chore done it would help my layout a lot.

Don’t get on the forum very often, Steve, but I’d be interested in the numbers project if you’re still talking with Hubert.

[Thomas Hoback]

Thanks, Charlie. Have one of the originals, but wasn’t sure what year it was issued. Still has all the months and dates and still gets updated every day.

Pat Hiatte
New Bloomfield, MO

[Thomas Hoback]

Tom –

According to ‘Moving Mail and Express by Rail’ by Edward M. DeRouin, express cars were exchanged between MP trains and those of other railroads at Kansas City in 1963 as follows:
MP Train 11, 69-foot baggage car, to MKT Train 1
MP Train 15, 42-foot express refrigerator, to ATSF Train 3
MP Train 17, 42-foot express refrigerator, to ATSF Train 7
MP Train 18, 50-foot passenger express box, from ATSF Train 4
MP Train 18, 60-foot baggage, from CRIP Train 40
MP Train 18, 40-foot express refrigerator, from UP Train 18
MP Train 19, 50-foot passenger express box, to ATSF Train 7
MP Train 19, 42-foot express refrigerator, to UP Train 17
MP Train 19, 42-foot express refrigerator, to CRIP Train 39
MP Train 19, 42-foot express refrigerator, to UP Train 9
MP Train 19, 42-foot express refrigerator, to ATST Train 123
MP Train 19, 42-foot express refrigerator, to ATSF Train 11
The book’s available, used, on Amazon.

With regard to mail, ‘Mail by Rail’, available for download at
https://archive.org/details/mailbyrailstoryo00long
has info on RPO routes vintage of its publication date in 1951. I don’t recall many routes that changed railroads at Kansas City, but the book is certainly worth a look.

You didn’t mention sleeping car swaps at Kansas City, but ‘Night Trains’ by Peter T. Maiken has a listing of Pullman routes and connections from the late 1940s, if I remember correctly. It, too, is available on Amazon.

Hope this helps, and good luck with your ambitious project.

Pat Hiatte
New Bloomfield, MO

[Thomas Hoback]

Brief glimpse of the last hurrah for covered wagons on the Frisco; if I remember correctly, all were gone by the time I started in ’74.

Pat Hiatte
New Bloomfield, MO

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