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    mopac
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    Various shots of Business Cars.

    #7104
    benjamintickell53
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    Were those cars 1, 8, 10 and 11, and if so, where was 9 normally kept?

    The December photos which show #1 on the end with canvas over the railing also show what appears to be a silver painted coupler. Wasn’t painting the coupler or drawbar considered a defect under FRA rules? In the late 1970s, when several of us operated the IC sleeper Cynthia in MP Eagle colors out of Little Rock, we failed an inspection because one of the owners had gotten overenthusiastic with spray paint and had coated those “rusty” couplers with paint. We were told that the paint might conceal a defect such as a cracking drawbar, and it was necessary to sandblast our couplers back to bare metal to comply with the inspector’s wishes. Perhaps the MP president’s car operated under more relaxed rules.

    Bill Pollard

    #7105
    mopac
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    I did not write down the numbers of these cars when I took this picture but my guess is they are 1,11,8, and 10. I am not sure where nine was kept. If it was not kept here in St. louis it might have been kept in Houston. I thought I remembered that a business car was kept in Houston for the Southern Region but I may be mistaken. As far as the painted coupler I cannot answer if painting them was a FRA violation but looks like all the MP business car couplers were painted blue except for the rear coupler on the business cars and they were silver.

    #8439
    Clayton Bohannon
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    I have a print of an engineering drawing of Missouri Pacific Railroad Pullman Car #200, the St. Louis. I am interested in finding out the history of this car.

    It is a side elevation of private car plan No. 1396. It is dated April 28, 1898 in the upper right hand corner and signed by A. M. Parents in the lower right. There is also the number 30896 in the upper right.Â
    The car builder was Pullman using design plan No. 1398 (B). Lot 2426 was finished and delivered in February 1899. He said that the number 30896 is the drawing number. I have been in contact with Ted Anderson at the Pullman Museum in Union, IL and he has also provided me with more Pullman-specific information – additional drawings etc.

    However, after all is said and done, I am still unable to find out this car’s history after its delivery to the Missouri Pacific Railroad in 1899.

    Can anyone help flesh out the car ‘s history such as – was this a private/business car for railroad executives, where did it run between, how long was it in service, what was its disposition, etc.

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