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Following up on Bert Dockall’s purchase of the Budd diner-lounge 847 / diner-coach 582, wasn’t this car in the Smoky Hill collection for a number of years?
He says Gateway Rail had it in Madison, IL for over 25 years, so the math could be right since it was late 70s/early 80s when I saw it in KC. I’ve completely lost touch with Smoky Hill, not sure how, but they had acquired a piece of Frisco trackage southeast of KC and they were going to be starting operations on it, sometime mid-90s when I faded out.
Ron Merrick
Ron,
I believe that is correct about the 582 being in Kansas City in the early years after Amtrak. I inspected a L&N Pine series sleeper in Kansas City during the 1978-1979 timeframe. We were looking for a sleeping car to make Amtrak compatible for Razorback game travel – “Hogtrain”. From memory, I recall a stainless MP diner coach at that location, undoubtedly the 582 since 580-581 were solid blue. At some time in the past, this car was also at (or being brokered by) Ozark Mountain Railcar. Bert Dockall performed a class restoration of the Eagle Cliff in years past, and I look forward to seeing what he will accomplish with the 582. With both those cars eventually to operate on the Austin steam train, Austin should perhaps be considered for some future MPHS convention.
Bill Pollard
Forgive the late reply, but as Bill knows, I am not a real big passenger fan. At least, not yet. Anyway, I was involved with the Smoky Hill Railway from 1992 through 1994. The MP 582 was in their collection, but was sold to a private individual during the time frame that I was there. I think it was in Nebraska for awhile before going to Branson. I lost track of it after that.
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