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  • October 31, 2015 at 1:05 pm #5583
    Phillip Abaray
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    Group,

    I’m looking for some information about the MoPac trains that ran into Kansas City in the late 50’s and early 60’s. I’m especially interested how these trains, especially the express/mail service interacted with the other passenger trains going into and out of KC. I would appreciate anyone’s help in trying to get an idea about the consists, cars and locomotives that ran on these trains.

    The purpose of this post is to try and establish how KC Union Station interacted between the different railroads that worked KC Union Station. The reason is the I’m going to try and model Union Station and some of the interactions between the different railroads. I’m not looking for exact prototype, but rather a feel for how things worked and how the different passenger trains and mail trains interacted.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Regards,

    Tom Bailey

    November 7, 2015 at 9:46 pm #7463
    Thomas Hoback
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    Tom –

    According to ‘Moving Mail and Express by Rail’ by Edward M. DeRouin, express cars were exchanged between MP trains and those of other railroads at Kansas City in 1963 as follows:
    MP Train 11, 69-foot baggage car, to MKT Train 1
    MP Train 15, 42-foot express refrigerator, to ATSF Train 3
    MP Train 17, 42-foot express refrigerator, to ATSF Train 7
    MP Train 18, 50-foot passenger express box, from ATSF Train 4
    MP Train 18, 60-foot baggage, from CRIP Train 40
    MP Train 18, 40-foot express refrigerator, from UP Train 18
    MP Train 19, 50-foot passenger express box, to ATSF Train 7
    MP Train 19, 42-foot express refrigerator, to UP Train 17
    MP Train 19, 42-foot express refrigerator, to CRIP Train 39
    MP Train 19, 42-foot express refrigerator, to UP Train 9
    MP Train 19, 42-foot express refrigerator, to ATST Train 123
    MP Train 19, 42-foot express refrigerator, to ATSF Train 11
    The book’s available, used, on Amazon.

    With regard to mail, ‘Mail by Rail’, available for download at
    https://archive.org/details/mailbyrailstoryo00long
    has info on RPO routes vintage of its publication date in 1951. I don’t recall many routes that changed railroads at Kansas City, but the book is certainly worth a look.

    You didn’t mention sleeping car swaps at Kansas City, but ‘Night Trains’ by Peter T. Maiken has a listing of Pullman routes and connections from the late 1940s, if I remember correctly. It, too, is available on Amazon.

    Hope this helps, and good luck with your ambitious project.

    Pat Hiatte
    New Bloomfield, MO

    November 10, 2015 at 5:54 pm #7473
    Phillip Abaray
    Member

    Pat,

    Thanks for the information. This will be very useful.

    Regards,

    Tom Bailey

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