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September 13, 2018 at 11:13 pm #6156benjamintickell53Participant
Rapido has released their Budd Dome car in MP Eagle colors, and while its a very attractive car, it is not exact for MP prototype. The window arrangement is not exact for MP, and the interior seats are set facing the long end of the car. I didn’t see a lot of MoP dome operation, but for the cars I did see, it seems like they always operated short end forward (vestibule to the rear). That would mean that the seats in the model are backward for normal MP operation. Can anyone confirm the short end forward operation as being standard?
Bill Pollard
September 14, 2018 at 3:43 pm #9046princessclyne69ParticipantI was in one of the P-S domes in 1959, and it was operating with dome stairway to the rear. I was in a couple of IC ex-MP P-S domes, same story. Sorry I don’t have a direct answer to this, but I thought the position of the stairway would have been the primary factor in orienting a dome coach in the consist, and my impression was that the stairway would always be to the rear, for safety reasons. I’ve been in lots of Burlington dome coaches, and that was the universal rule as I saw it. Then again, they usually ran three and four E-units elephant style, so definitely not the MoPac way.
RG7
September 14, 2018 at 5:49 pm #9048benjamintickell53ParticipantThat was my experience on other railroads also… stairway to the rear which meant short end of the car forward. Its a little irritating that a $100 car has the seating backward. Of course, its no doubt possible to dissect the car and rearrange things, but at that price, it shouldn’t be necessary.
Bill
September 14, 2018 at 10:21 pm #9041princessclyne69ParticipantHere’s the genuine article……
Looks like it’s on the back end of a train just arriving, backing in to Union Station.
There is what looks like a guy wearing a white shirt and tie in the dome, and he seems to be facing forward. The diagram shows short end forward.
So all the evidence points to the model as being backward.
My only personal experience with Canadian domes was on the Chaleur, close to fifteen years ago, and I don’t remember. My pictures would have been prints (long story) and I have no idea where those are, but info on those cars shouldn’t be hard to come by. I still find this hard to believe, though.
RG7
November 13, 2018 at 3:17 am #9143benjamintickell53ParticipantThe Canadian domes, which are the ones actually modeled by Rapido, did (do) operate long end/vestibule forward, and interior seating is arranged accordingly. Rapido’s MP painted passenger cars are not known for absolute fidelity to MP practice — again, the cars are Canadian cars with US paint to sell a few more cars. That was less of an issue with some of their other cars, but with the dome, it does result in an undesirable compromise with either all of the seats facing backward or the car itself running backwards when operated per MP or other US railroad practice.
Bill Pollard
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