Paint color of T&P gons?

[princessclyne69]

I’ll put this question here. I’m building a couple of Sunshine T&P gons, from the 17000-18249 series. Two groups of cars with slightly different features. These were fairly plain straight-sill gons, built before the later fishbelly T&P gons. There were still 31 shown in the 1968 SoE, and there is no new number series for them so they were evidently intended to be off the roster soon.

My question is that the Sunshine instruction sheet says they were originally painted black, but at some point the cars that were shopped began to be painted red. Does this mean ‘sometime after the war’ or ‘early fifties’? I also presume that some or many of these cars may not ever have been completely repainted.

Next week I’ll be reunited with all my reference material, but for now I’m just wondering. They’re not ready to be painted yet, so no hurry. I’ll add that I even have a CD of photos of almost everything T&P, but it and some other CDs must be buried somewhere as they haven’t turned up.

RG7

[Bud Moss]

Ron, I think you’d be safe assuming the 1950s. Jerry

[princessclyne69]

I may paint one black and dirty, and the other red and fairly clean. I’ll know more next week.

RG7

[Mike Vana]

From maybe 1957 on I’d use freight car red. I saw black ones in company service in the 1980s and found a photo in a book without an ampersand that appears black. But there was a movement to red paint on a lot of equipment at about the time blue and gray geeps were showing up.

In the mid fifties they assembled a bunch of 50’ cars with prefabricated sides in Marshall and these got red paint and diamonds. There was an ad in an old Railway Age showing this.

Jim

[princessclyne69]

Jim:

This sounds about right. I suspect not too many gons from this series got repainted, since they built the 50′ ones, but there might have been some.

On a related note, in about 1970 I built one of those 19000-series 50′ gons (actually 52’6″), built over a span from 51 to 58 according to the SoE, by modifying the shape of the fishbelly of an Athearn gon. One of the few cars I built from that era that I still have in service.

RG7

[bargetanika]

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