Passenger paint schemes and engines

[tqvfjmin]

Given the paucity of decent affordable heavyweight equipment in eagle colors (the Rivarossi/Con Cor versions are the wrong blue and their 3 axle trucks are comlete garbage, in my experience) as well as the lack of decent decals should one wish to repaint some Spectrum cars, I was wondering if one would have EVER seen a diesel, such as an E8, in eagle colors pulling a consist of heavyweights in the old Pullman green scheme. Is steam the only appropriate engine type for these cars? I’m sure that lash-ups like this would have been rare and operated in a tiny time window, if they existed at all but did it NEVER happen? I suspect that it was more likely to see some early eagle color cars behind steam than the other way around, but one can hope.

As for the decal issue, I have had some luck printing my own decals on an ink jet printer and might try to “roll my own.” Is there a correct font available for use on a Mac Book Pro?

Thanks.

Tim Nichols

[benjamintickell53]

Tim,
It happened both ways, but as you note, the “window of opportunity” was fairly small. I have a photo of Train 15, Kay-See Flyer, leaving STL 2-2-1940 with a string of all heavyweight, all “Pullman” green cars (will appear in my presentation in Jeff City in a few weeks if you are attending.) There are quite a few photos of steam pulling mixed consists, some green, some Eagle colors.
Bill Pollard

[tqvfjmin]

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend your presentation. What engine was pulling that Train 15?

[benjamintickell53]

Sorry… I meant to include that in the original msg… 7001 was pulling the all HW train. This would have been before “The Eagle” (Missouri River Eagle) began operation. 7000 and 7001 were delivered October 22, 1939 and were put into service on existing passenger trains (the first being on the “River Line” passenger train from St. Louis to Kansas City.) They were later assigned to trains 5-6, Kay-See Flyer, which would become the Eagle. The Eagle began operating March 10, 1940, so for this particular instance, Oct 1939-March 1940 would be the “window of opportunity” to see a streamlined diesel pulling heavyweight cars. I feel sure it happened on other parts of the railroad. Photos exist showing the Sunshine Special with diesels and a mostly HW green consist with a few Eagle painted cars.
Bill Pollard

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[virgilbellamy1116]

I’m looking for some information on the pre-Eagle paint scheme for heavyweight MP and T&P passenger cars. Were they the same on both roads? Was it “Pullman Green”? Any other colors used? Were trucks black? Any info on lettering, car names would also be helpful. I’d appreciate the information or help on finding the proper resource.

Thanks for your help!

Michael Pittmon
“Modelling the dawn of the Eagle era in East Texas”.

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