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    benjamintickell53
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    From Yahoo Mopac group, June 2015

    Here’s a nice shot of rebuilt heavyweight coach 338 at Palestine. No date is given, but early 50s would be a good guess.

    http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth25640/m1/1/?q=palestine

    Dick Ryker



    Is that a dog setting just on the inside of the coach ?
    Dennis Faircloth



    looks brand new, is spotless, and has a step stool on the depot side — I wonder
    if it was placed there for “inspection” by local patrons.
    Tim O’Connor



    What does the letter “B” indicate?
    Charles Weston
    San Antonio



    Speed restriction on this car because of its construction.

    B means, off the top of my head, higher center of gravity (heavyweight) construction, non-tightlock couplers and one or two other things. This limits the car to a maximum speed somewhat less than that of the streamlined lightweights, which were marked D. Full details of this are in ETTs of the period.

    For all intents and purposes, only B and D were used, to my knowledge. There may have been definitions for A and C also.
    Ron Merrick



    Charles & Ron,
    Upgraded MP heavyweight coaches 6330-6336 had the “C” speed restriction
    letter. This designation applied to heavyweight cars equipped with
    tight-lock couplers and trucks with roller bearings. “C” was
    essentially the same as “D” that all lightweight passenger cars
    received, the difference being that “C” had a higher center of gravity
    than “D” cars.

    The speed restriction letters started use ca. 1949. Passenger cars with
    “C” and “D” were restricted to 79 mph on tangent track. Cars with “B”
    (the balance of heavyweight passenger cars) were limited to 75 mph on
    tangent track. This was discussed on p. 10 of the Spring-Summer 2004
    Eagle (double-issue) on MP heavyweight coaches, the cover of which had
    a photo of MP 6336.
    Ed Hawkins

    #7412
    benjamintickell53
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    60-seat coach 338 was originally classified as an International-Great Northern car before the consolidation of Texas subsidiary lines. The diagram for cars 337-339 has an original date of July 30, 1949, the approximate year of rebuilding. In the MP 1963 renumbering of passenger cars, coach 338 became coach 1161. The car last appeared in the March 1965 issue of the Official Register of Passenger Train Equipment, thus giving an approximate time of its retirement.

    Bill Pollard

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