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One-third quart milk bottle with embossed buzzsaw.
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[attachment=2:3ilsx4uk]file_003.jpg[/attachment:3ilsx4uk]benjamintickell53ParticipantExcellent idea, Charlie. As we fill this out, it could eventually be used for a stand alone article in some future Eagle. With regard to the move from K Tower in Pacific, MO… Per MP Magazine, May-June 1962:
Consolidation of three separate dispatcher offices into one location on the Eastern Division was completed recently. KC- St Louis and KC-Diaz are now located at Jefferson City. CTC machines at Pleasant Hill MO and “K” Tower in Pacific MO were moved to the refurbished booster hall adjacent to Jefferson City passenger station.
Bill
benjamintickell53ParticipantA sidebar discussion to the dispatcher train sheet review is a discussion of the MP dispatcher offices.
As of December 1, 1962, the following dispatcher offices/dispatcher seniority districts were listed in the agreement between MP and the American Train Dispatchers Association:
Chester, IL
Poplar Bluff, MO
Little Rock and Gurdon, AR
Monroe, LA
Kansas City, MO
Jefferson City, MO
Osawatomie, KS
Houston, TX
Palestine, TXBy this time, many smaller dispatcher offices had been consolidated into the above offices, and the above offices were in turn further consolidated down into fewer offices until the final consolidation into Omaha in 1990. A worthwhile project would be to establish the operating years for the various smaller dispatcher offices – some were located at rather surprising locations.
Bill Pollard
benjamintickell53ParticipantNice purchase of the calendars-good condition and a great price. They all look like originals to me. That 1946 calendar has always been a favorite — MP distributed large (18×24 ?) prints of that scene which were framed and hung at many stations.
Bill Pollard
benjamintickell53ParticipantThe window arrangement on each side and the rear platform railing look like they match car #1. I thought that the car named “The Eagle” became MP 1, but some on the MPHS facebook page were suggesting otherwise. Can anyone confirm either way?
MP #1 was originally MP #12, built by Pullman in 1926 and rebuilt by ACF at some date that I cannot read on my diagram. If someone has a legible diagram to read the rebuild date, I suspect these ACF photos were “builder” photos when the car was completed.
Bill Pollard
benjamintickell53ParticipantReally nice weathering job on the ROCK Geep, shown in the first part of this thread. It gives the appearance of grimy everyday use without being over weathered.
Billbenjamintickell53ParticipantInteresting photo. I had not seen a MoP rail bus of that vintage, nor one that was for passenger and express/LCL service. Was this the original type of bus that operated on the Houston North Shore line after the electric service ended?
Bill Pollardbenjamintickell53ParticipantIf someone has a December 1956 Official Guide, is the St. Louis – El Dorado Pullman run (southbound in train 1-31-821, northbound in 822-32) listed as a 10-roomette 5-DBR car?
Bill Pollard
benjamintickell53ParticipantCascade Drive, after its return to the B&O.
benjamintickell53ParticipantIf you have the Mike Adams book on the White River Railway (MP White River Division) there is a photo of Cotter on page 137 — not great, but a photo. There is also a drawing of the Cotter depot on page 167, taken from company blueprints, which would give you better dimensional information.
Bill Pollard
benjamintickell53ParticipantA chronology would be a massive undertaking, but would be really helpful to researchers. Have you given any thought to how it might be structured? A spreadsheet (Excel) might be the easiest format, with a few people actually making changes that were submitted by everyone else who might wish to participate.
It would be important for each date to be backed up with some reference — a citation in a newspaper, a timetable issue, etc. There have been a few generalized efforts in the past — such as a chronology of corporate history, but integrating that information with other material such as track abandonments, train offs, division expansion or consolidation, etc., would indeed be helpful to future researchers.
Bill Pollard
benjamintickell53ParticipantAccording to the Pullman Company’s History of Lines records, Pullman line 3385 (New Orleans-Houston) was filled with 8sec-5DBR cars in the 1950s until late June 1959, then went through a couple of other heavyweight configurations before being converted to lightweight cars in April 1961. Pullman line 3641 (Houston-Brownsville) is shown as having 8sec-5DBR cars assigned from late November 1957 until mid-May 1961, when the route was converted to lightweight equipment.
The History of Lines documents do not show assignments by specific car names, but a September 1961 Pullman-MP car assignment sheet shows 8-5 cars Clover Nook, Clover Spray, Ixtaccihuatl, Malinche, Nevado de Toluca and Sierre Madre as still being active but “extra” – not assigned to any line. Its probable that the last 8-5 cars assigned to the Houston-Brownsville run came from this group. Houston documents now being scanned by the Gulf Coast Chapter and shared with MPHS may eventually provide more detailed documentation.
Bill Pollard
benjamintickell53ParticipantMy problem has to do with how I access the forum. When I access thru the main mopac.org “home page” and then use the “Forums” link on right side menu, everything is a bit scrambled and compressed, with some overlapping text. That’s usually how I have been accessing, and while it works fine for posting, some/most of the links at the top (quick links menu, etc) are not functional.
When I access the forum through the direct link that Charlie provides on the Mopac Yahoo group page (http://mopac.org/bb/), then I get a full width version of the forum pages, and the quick links menu works fine.
When accessing thru the home page, even if I make the page full screen width, I still have the scrambled text, etc. The fix is obviously to access through the direct link Charlie provided, but I suspect many will access thru the main page so that glitch eventually needs to be addressed also. It appears that when the right side menu box is present, it is scrambling up the remainder of the page.
Hope that helps with troubleshooting.
Bill
benjamintickell53ParticipantDavid,
If you find a place that can handle that kind of job at a reasonable cost, let me know. Repro business cards with current information on the reverse (i.e.- zip codes on addresses, or email information) would not be confused for 1940-vintage cards.Bill Pollard
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