Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
Ray SwansonParticipant
Not exactly what I asked for, but those photos are awesome anyway! Thanks for posting.
Ray SwansonParticipantGlad to help, Joerg.
Ray SwansonParticipantThere’s one more for MP, Joerg:
MP 13575-13664 Rebuilt Caboose Body Kit
http://shpws.me/MKBtI designed these body kits, and although I have not printed these particular kits yet, I have printed the basic components of the body kits several times over. These body kits are the result of my recent efforts to eliminate the searching out of the individual parts necessary to build each kit and put them all in one model file. If you choose, you can order just the roof or cupola parts, for example, and modify an existing model. But if you wish to build a replacement body for the Atlas extended vision caboose I have designed parts and body kits exactly for that purpose.
Rather than rewrite the book on this project, let me point you to my blog where I go over the build process of two different cabooses representing two different eras of ICC caboose production using variations on these 3D printed components.
http://fr8kar.blogspot.com/2016/05/cotton-belt-ev-caboose-41.html
http://fr8kar.blogspot.com/2016/05/santa-fe-ev-caboose-999700.htmlBear in mind these two cabooses were the “pilot models” for what you see listed in my Shapeways store, so they don’t have any of the design features the current parts have such as bolt heads and starter holes for grab irons nor are the current smokejack and brake rigging parts shown on these models. Nevertheless, they were both good learning experiences and the fit and finish of the components was as I intended.
I have printed two other complete body kits representing cabooses from Soo Line and Rio Grande and the results are similar but with a slightly better resolution on the roof parts. These bodies incorporated some revisions including the bolt heads and starter holes I mentioned. If you seek out the Soo Line and Rio Grande parts in my Shapeways store, you can see some photos of these updated parts.
It is my intention to build one of the 13575-13664 as-built cabooses in the future, but currently I am developing other parts so I’m not as focused on cabooses right now. Rest assured I will return to the subject since cabooses are among my favorite railroad equipment. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer them.
Ray SwansonParticipantThat doesn’t look too difficult filling in those holes until you notice the rivet detail that needs to be preserved around the edge of the roof. Yikes!
Ray SwansonParticipantExcellent work, Tom. Keep it up!
Ryan Harris
Fort Worth, TXRay SwansonParticipant@obermeyern wrote:
Ryan,
Ah I’d love to make the RPM meet, but having out patient surgery on Friday and won’t be able to travel over the weekend. All of the future items that you listed sound interesting.
Nate
Best wishes to you for a speedy recovery, Nate.
Ryan
Ray SwansonParticipant@obermeyern wrote:
I ordered Frosted Extreme Detail hoping for a higher quality part. I’ll post pictures when they arrive.
Nate
Sounds great. I’m looking forward to seeing them.
I’ll be attending the Mid-Continent RPM Meet in Benton, Kansas this weekend. I’ll have samples of just about everything I’ve printed so far, so I hope to get some good photos and some discussion going about not only the caboose parts, but the other things like joint bars, semaphores, structures and track laying tools. If anyone here can make it, be sure to look for me.
Ryan Harris
Fort Worth, TXRay SwansonParticipant@obermeyern wrote:
Ryan,
I’m happy you’re offering the Mopac EV caboose sides/ends/etc. I’m currently placing an order for the MP smokejack. I need one for my current KO&G project and at least 1 or 2 EV caboose models I want to do. Have you received a production smokejack and can comment on how they look? This is my first Shapeways order.
If anyone wants to split an order for the smokejacks please let me know. I will probably only use 3 or 4 of them total.
Nate
No, you will be the first to try these out, Nate. Did you order them in Frosted Ultra Detail or Frosted Extreme Detail? Apparently, the FXD parts are a bit stronger than the FUD parts from what I’ve been reading, which must be part of what accounts for the higher cost.
Ryan Harris
Fort WorthRay SwansonParticipant@Dan Schmidt wrote:
Hello Chuck,
Try this link:http:www.shapeways.com/shop/he6agon
They should be on pages three & four, IIRC.
For the present, I’ll probably have to pass on getting any, too many medical bills
need to be dealt with…Dan Schmidt
Dan, I sure wish you a speedy recovery. Don’t worry about these cabooses now; get well! They’ll be around when things get better.
Take care, friend.
Ryan Harris
Fort Worth, TXRay SwansonParticipant@cduckworth wrote:
Ryan
Can you post some photos of the parts and caboose kits?The fourth link in the original post has the photos of the caboose parts I’ve received. There are so many of them I thought it would be easier to just give the link to the gallery rather than post them inline in the message.
Here’s the link:
http://www.pbase.com/mecrharris/3dprint_caboose
And here are some additional renderings and photos of other things, including some cupolas:
http://www.pbase.com/mecrharris/3d_models
When you click on any single image in the galleries, it will display a new page for that image. Scroll down below the image and you’ll see the exif info for the photo. Just below that you will see the text, “other sizes: small medium large original”. I’d recommend clicking original on these images so you can see the parts in all their glory.
For most of us who have seen 3D printed parts over the years, these parts will change what you think about 3D printing. It’s not “there” just yet, but brother it is getting a lot closer. It’s really amazing what can be done. These carbon black outlet covers are very small and the detail is even better than you can see in this photo, now that I know how to clean the parts better and avoid marring the details with aggressive solvents:
Some of my favorite parts are the semaphore blades. I’m working on a prototype double head semaphore mast mounted on a signal bridge. Still a ways to go on that project, but the semaphore blades themselves are done. Here they are in Frosted Extreme Detail:
As far as the caboose parts are concerned, again I’d recommend just browsing the gallery looking at the original images. I took the photos in the sequence shown and the first few photos are as I removed the parts from the bubble wrap, so they still have the waxy support material on them. As you go through the photos, you’ll see the parts as they are cleaned and the detail begins to be revealed. I go through the assembly process, which is very quick. The parts shown do not include the grab iron ends and drill starter holes that are now standard on all the sides. I’ve also made some revisions to the cupolas so the opening on the inside lines up with the underside of the roof (the ceiling from the point of view of the caboose occupants). I’d like to make some interior detail parts in the future, so this latest revision to the cupolas allows for that.
Speaking of revisions, I’m constantly trying to improve the parts. Since these parts are not the result of expensive tooling, they can be revised very easily and with no loss of investment. All I have to do is draw the changes to the part and upload the revised CAD file. As the technology improves, the possibility exists for me to thin out the parts that have been beefed up to meet the minimum thickness, such as the overhanging roof edge, or simply not included at all because it can’t be printed, such as brake stands and the plumbing at each end of the caboose.
Anyway, I think in spite of the cost, the technology is finally catching up to our hobby. We are rapidly approaching a point where having a critical mass of pre-orders or committed buyers isn’t a requirement to make unusual models anymore, even in the small runs we’ve seen in brass or resin. I made both the Cotton Belt C-40-8 and C-40-9 classes of caboose just because I want one of each and because I can. Surely either one would have satisfied the Cotton Belt modelers out there who wanted an alternative to the Atlas caboose. But why not have both? And the same is true of the Missouri Pacific cabooses I’ve modeled here. One version is good, but all versions are better! I didn’t do it because I have to get a certain number of sales to break even. I did it because I want one of each!
As more people develop the skills to translate our favorite prototypes to CAD files, we all benefit from the ability to recreate even the most obscure of our favorite prototypes in miniature. I understand the religious fervor of some when it comes to 3D printing; it’s a very exciting technology. Yes, it’s a little pricey now, but like laptops and flatscreen TVs, it’s going to get better and cheaper as time goes on. But right now, as it is today, it’s really quite good. I can’t tell you how excited I am to build all these projects!
Ryan Harris
Fort Worth, TXRay SwansonParticipantHi Dan! Good to see you here.
Okay, so there are basically four variations you can build:
A. 13515-13574 with diagonal panel roof and original windows
B. 13515-13574 with diagonal panel roof and blanked windows
C. 13575-13664 with X panel roof and original windows
D. 13575-13664 with X panel roof and blanked windowsVersion A: $107.27
Version B: $107.69
Version C: $105.10
Version $105.56Then there are the detail parts you can add. Because of the $5 setup fee per part for parts printed in Frosted Ultra Detail (FUD) and Frosted Extreme Detail (FXD), I tried to group parts together on a sprue to avoid paying $5.75 per small part. This way I get multiples of small parts and only encounter the setup fee once. The prices vary between the two materials, with Frosted Extreme Detail being the more expensive and more detailed material. It also has a smaller maximum size, so some things like the caboose sides won’t fit in the bounding box, therefore I can’t offer those parts in FXD.
The detail parts that apply are as follows:
E: MP Smokejack $9.72 FUD/$12.95 FXD for 10 pieces
F: MP Battery Box $11.54 FUD/$16.07 FXD for 2 each of 3 styles (total 6 pieces)
G: Brake Rigging $10.60 FUD/$13.46 FXD for 4 pieces
H: Toilet Vent $9.08 FUD/$11.85 FXD for 10 piecesThe prices are still higher than I’d like, but when I think about building another one of these, or in the case of the 13575-13664 series, which I have no possibility of obtaining other than brass, it’s not that bad. You still have to provide the Atlas caboose to supply the trucks and underframe, but you can get those pretty cheap on ebay regularly, especially if you don’t mind stripping one in the Cotton Belt scheme (those things are everywhere!).
I hope this answers your questions. Of course, if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
Ryan Harris
Fort Worth, TX -
AuthorPosts