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August 17, 2015 at 3:10 pm #5475peggyrothschildParticipant
Hubert Mask will do a set of decals for re-weighs at Mopac shops or rip tracks. Here’s a list I started for the locations. If I missed a few please add to this topic. Am going to cover from the steam era to 1982. The set will cover white for boxcars, gondolas and hoppers and black for reefers and covered hoppers.
The set will include tare weights and the MM/YY.
ALEX – Alexandria
CHAT – Chicago Heights
DES – Desoto
DUP – Dupo
EP – El Paso
EW – not sure of this location but was on a MP boxcar – may have been light weighed off-line.
FW – Ft Worth
K.C. – Kansas City
KV – Kingsville
MPS – Memphis
PAL – Palestine
PL – Palestine?
SA – San Antonio
SED – Sedalia
STL – St. Louis
TY – Tyler
WICH – WichitaAugust 18, 2015 at 2:28 am #7094kenrisParticipantDid Omaha have a scale? There were lots of gons and hoppers that were almost in captive service.
August 18, 2015 at 3:21 am #7095peggyrothschildParticipantOne would have to think so since they had a large rip track. I was looking at photos in several books to come up with the list.
August 18, 2015 at 5:27 am #7096mopacKeymasterHow about MK for Muskogee. I have photo’s of KOG hoppers with ‘CHGO’, but I don’t know what railroad.
Yes, Omaha did have a scale, but I don’t know if the Car Dept used it to change the car data…
August 18, 2015 at 5:45 am #7097kenrisParticipantI’ll contact Joel Boucher – he would know.
August 18, 2015 at 2:01 pm #7098peggyrothschildParticipant@garyh wrote:
How about MK for Muskogee. I have photo’s of KOG hoppers with ‘CHGO’, but I don’t know what railroad.
Yes, Omaha did have a scale, but I don’t know if the Car Dept used it to change the car data…
Gary
I’ll add MK and CHGO. Am also seeing lots of cars with NEW on them that have obviously been in service for a while. I’ll have to find a ORER from the late 1970’s and see what the light weight rule was for re weighting cars within so many years. Back in the 1950’s it was every five yearsLooking too at the restenciling I see SBD and a few other RRs stenciled on modern Mop cars so will add a couple of these to the list too.
August 18, 2015 at 9:45 pm #7100madonnasuffolk30ParticipantThere was a consolidated list compiled on STMFC or the MFCL yahoo groups some time ago on the reweigh locations for a large number of railroads. I doubt it’s all inclusive, but it’s a good start. I copied the ones listed for the Mopac. Hopefully they copied okay. I like the idea of a decal for reweighs and also with month/yr digits and will purchase several of the decals.
AL – Alexandria LA also ALEX
ALEX – Alexandria LA also AL
ATCH – Atchison KS
BD – ??
BT – Bonne Terre MO
DES – DeSoto MO
DEQ – DeQuincy LA
DUPO – Dupo IL
DV – Danville IL C&EI
FW – Fort Worth TX
HO – Houston TX
KC – Kansas City MO
KV – Kingsville TX
LESP ST – Lesperance St Yard MO St. Louis
MG – ??
MK – Muskogee OK KO&G
MPS – Memphis TN
MS – Marshall TX T&P
NE – ??
NLR – North Little Rock AR
OMA – Omaha NE
OSA – Osawattamie KS
PAL – Palestine TX I-GN
PB – Popular Bluff MO
PUE – Pueblo CO
SA – San Antonio TX
SSA – South San Antonio TX
SED – Sedalia MO
SGST – Settegast Yard (Houston) TX
SP – Shreveport LA T&P
STG – St. Genevieve MO
STL – St. Louis MO
TEXA – Texarkana AR
TY – Tyler TX T&P
WICH – Wichita KS
YC – Yard Center IL C&EINate
August 19, 2015 at 12:44 am #7102peggyrothschildParticipantNate
Thanks for the listing. I’ll make sure we have several of the obvious car shops on the sheet, DES, SED, KV, but also the large rip tracks KC, HOUS, Dupo, NLR, etc. I plan to break the sheet into four decades. 1950’s, 1960’s, 1970’s and early 1980’s. Obviously the modeler can mix and match the tare weights and many reweighs only changed the last four or five numbers of the weight.August 19, 2015 at 8:27 am #7106mopacKeymasterPlease help me.
What is the meaning of these re-weighs and where to place them on the model ?
August 19, 2015 at 12:34 pm #7107peggyrothschildParticipant@IndyCity wrote:
Please help me.
What is the meaning of these re-weighs and where to place them on the model ?
If you look at the small data under the car initial and number there’s stenciling for the capacity of the car, the load limit and the last line is the actual light weight of the car or tare weight. When weighing a loaded car you subtract the total weight of the car from the light weight to get the weight of the commodity being shipped so the freight charges can be determined. The AAR mechanical rules defined how often a rail car had to be weighed empty so the light weight was accurate. It also stated the restenciling requirements such as where the car was weighed and the month and year. Weights changed due to general wear, load dividers being added or removed, major rip track repairs, etc
You’ll see in photos as example, LT WGT 56000 DES 5-80 meaning the car was weighed at DeSoto, Missouri May 1980 or in the example of the attached photo the light weight shows as NEW meaning the car weigh is what it weighed when it was built.
[attachment=1:1582eohz]image.jpg[/attachment:1582eohz]Here’s an example of a NOT&M stock car showing the car was light weighed at 43,900 pounds in South San Antonio, Texas (SSA) in June 1950.
[attachment=0:1582eohz]image.jpg[/attachment:1582eohz]August 19, 2015 at 2:56 pm #7109mopacKeymasterOk. Thanks for the explanation.
August 20, 2015 at 3:42 am #7112jymrpvzdnskxnqtcParticipantIt would be nice if Bonne Terre was on the list, at least on the 50s grouping.
August 20, 2015 at 11:59 am #7113peggyrothschildParticipant@ygbsm66 wrote:
It would be nice if Bonne Terre was on the list, at least on the 50s grouping.
Do you know the weigh station code?
August 20, 2015 at 2:34 pm #7115jymrpvzdnskxnqtcParticipantCharlie,
The photos I have shot B.T. then the date and some are followed by the Bonne Terre Shops logo.
August 20, 2015 at 7:51 pm #7116peggyrothschildParticipant@ygbsm66 wrote:
Charlie,
The photos I have shot B.T. then the date and some are followed by the Bonne Terre Shops logo.
Joe
You have a photo we can reference? -
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