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  • #5475
    Charles Duckworth
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      Hubert Mask will do a set of decals for re-weighs at Mopac shops or rip tracks. Here’s a list I started for the locations. If I missed a few please add to this topic. Am going to cover from the steam era to 1982. The set will cover white for boxcars, gondolas and hoppers and black for reefers and covered hoppers.

      The set will include tare weights and the MM/YY.

      ALEX – Alexandria
      CHAT – Chicago Heights
      DES – Desoto
      DUP – Dupo
      EP – El Paso
      EW – not sure of this location but was on a MP boxcar – may have been light weighed off-line.
      FW – Ft Worth
      K.C. – Kansas City
      KV – Kingsville
      MPS – Memphis
      PAL – Palestine
      PL – Palestine?
      SA – San Antonio
      SED – Sedalia
      STL – St. Louis
      TY – Tyler
      WICH – Wichita

      #7094
      Richard Ryker
      Participant

        Did Omaha have a scale? There were lots of gons and hoppers that were almost in captive service.

        #7095
        Charles Duckworth
        Participant

          One would have to think so since they had a large rip track. I was looking at photos in several books to come up with the list.

          #7096

          How about MK for Muskogee. I have photo’s of KOG hoppers with ‘CHGO’, but I don’t know what railroad.

          Yes, Omaha did have a scale, but I don’t know if the Car Dept used it to change the car data…

          #7097
          Richard Ryker
          Participant

            I’ll contact Joel Boucher – he would know.

            #7098
            Charles Duckworth
            Participant

              @garyh wrote:

              How about MK for Muskogee. I have photo’s of KOG hoppers with ‘CHGO’, but I don’t know what railroad.

              Yes, Omaha did have a scale, but I don’t know if the Car Dept used it to change the car data…

              Gary
              I’ll add MK and CHGO. Am also seeing lots of cars with NEW on them that have obviously been in service for a while. I’ll have to find a ORER from the late 1970’s and see what the light weight rule was for re weighting cars within so many years. Back in the 1950’s it was every five years

              Looking too at the restenciling I see SBD and a few other RRs stenciled on modern Mop cars so will add a couple of these to the list too.

              #7100
              Nathan Obermeyer
              Participant

                There was a consolidated list compiled on STMFC or the MFCL yahoo groups some time ago on the reweigh locations for a large number of railroads. I doubt it’s all inclusive, but it’s a good start. I copied the ones listed for the Mopac. Hopefully they copied okay. I like the idea of a decal for reweighs and also with month/yr digits and will purchase several of the decals.

                AL – Alexandria LA also ALEX
                ALEX – Alexandria LA also AL
                ATCH – Atchison KS
                BD – ??
                BT – Bonne Terre MO
                DES – DeSoto MO
                DEQ – DeQuincy LA
                DUPO – Dupo IL
                DV – Danville IL C&EI
                FW – Fort Worth TX
                HO – Houston TX
                KC – Kansas City MO
                KV – Kingsville TX
                LESP ST – Lesperance St Yard MO St. Louis
                MG – ??
                MK – Muskogee OK KO&G
                MPS – Memphis TN
                MS – Marshall TX T&P
                NE – ??
                NLR – North Little Rock AR
                OMA – Omaha NE
                OSA – Osawattamie KS
                PAL – Palestine TX I-GN
                PB – Popular Bluff MO
                PUE – Pueblo CO
                SA – San Antonio TX
                SSA – South San Antonio TX
                SED – Sedalia MO
                SGST – Settegast Yard (Houston) TX
                SP – Shreveport LA T&P
                STG – St. Genevieve MO
                STL – St. Louis MO
                TEXA – Texarkana AR
                TY – Tyler TX T&P
                WICH – Wichita KS
                YC – Yard Center IL C&EI

                Nate

                #7102
                Charles Duckworth
                Participant

                  Nate
                  Thanks for the listing. I’ll make sure we have several of the obvious car shops on the sheet, DES, SED, KV, but also the large rip tracks KC, HOUS, Dupo, NLR, etc. I plan to break the sheet into four decades. 1950’s, 1960’s, 1970’s and early 1980’s. Obviously the modeler can mix and match the tare weights and many reweighs only changed the last four or five numbers of the weight.

                  #7106

                  Please help me.

                  What is the meaning of these re-weighs and where to place them on the model ?

                  #7107
                  Charles Duckworth
                  Participant

                    @IndyCity wrote:

                    Please help me.

                    What is the meaning of these re-weighs and where to place them on the model ?

                    If you look at the small data under the car initial and number there’s stenciling for the capacity of the car, the load limit and the last line is the actual light weight of the car or tare weight. When weighing a loaded car you subtract the total weight of the car from the light weight to get the weight of the commodity being shipped so the freight charges can be determined. The AAR mechanical rules defined how often a rail car had to be weighed empty so the light weight was accurate. It also stated the restenciling requirements such as where the car was weighed and the month and year. Weights changed due to general wear, load dividers being added or removed, major rip track repairs, etc

                    You’ll see in photos as example, LT WGT 56000 DES 5-80 meaning the car was weighed at DeSoto, Missouri May 1980 or in the example of the attached photo the light weight shows as NEW meaning the car weigh is what it weighed when it was built.
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                    Here’s an example of a NOT&M stock car showing the car was light weighed at 43,900 pounds in South San Antonio, Texas (SSA) in June 1950.
                    [attachment=0:1582eohz]image.jpg[/attachment:1582eohz]

                    #7109

                    Ok. Thanks for the explanation.

                    #7112
                    Joe Pauley
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                      It would be nice if Bonne Terre was on the list, at least on the 50s grouping.

                      #7113
                      Charles Duckworth
                      Participant

                        @ygbsm66 wrote:

                        It would be nice if Bonne Terre was on the list, at least on the 50s grouping.

                        Do you know the weigh station code?

                        #7115
                        Joe Pauley
                        Participant

                          Charlie,

                          The photos I have shot B.T. then the date and some are followed by the Bonne Terre Shops logo.

                          #7116
                          Charles Duckworth
                          Participant

                            @ygbsm66 wrote:

                            Charlie,

                            The photos I have shot B.T. then the date and some are followed by the Bonne Terre Shops logo.

                            Joe
                            You have a photo we can reference?

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