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This story has indeed been published before by MPHS. One guess is that it could have been reprinted by Mike Adams or Frank Bryan in an early issue of the Eagle. I’m only going off memory, though.
RG7
My first thought would be Hutchinson.
This is based on the highway overpass, and the (freight) depot on the south side of the tracks. The photo would have been taken from in front of the passenger depot, if this is Hutch.
RG7
Looks real good on that Vanderbilt tender….
I believe the last pre-bankruptcy president L. W. Baldwin was reported to have said something along the lines of ‘the only proper color for a steam locomotive is black’.
RG7
Pat:
I think it’s safe to say that the Accurail car is pretty close. It’s a wood-side car if I recall. There are a couple of specific ART details that are not on it, but as a three-foot model it’s good. And there were a lot more wood-side cars converted to ice service than steel ones.
RG7
I have an ORER from January 1965, from one of the Westerfield CDs. It shows a number of series of six-digit numbers, mostly new cars that were recently delivered. Several of the series are denoted as ‘additions’, meaning the first time the series was listed in the ORER.
At first glance it’s not obvious that any cars from existing series were actually renumbered yet. A number of series of cars, about twenty, had evidently already been delivered and were listed in the ORER from previous quarters, but they seem to be mostly complete series (every number in a block is accounted for) and at least one where the number series is assigned but no cars are listed, which was common for a series of cars expected to be delivered in that quarter.
Interestingly enough, there were a handful of auto cars (50′ double door cars) numbered in the 188000 series, which is a series that did not survive. Standard 50′ boxcars with no special equipment later ended up in the 350000 series.
Somewhere deeply buried I have a copy of the renumbering plan for passenger cars, but I’ve never actually seen the renumbering plan for freight cars, which I assume Charlie is referring to. I understood it to run around 300 pages.
RG7
December 27, 2019 at 2:51 am in reply to: Coming in a few weeks HO Mopac 1150 LCL caboose kits #9572This looks very promising. Now I understand the comment about two pieces.
RG7
I have only conjecture. This is probably a posed shot, and as near as I can tell the MP cars are all heavyweights.
There is a Centipede roster, which says the first N de M unit was delivered 4/47, then the balance of the 14 units were delivered 1-7/48, the last ones built (yet the Baldwin builders numbers are lower than the PRR and Seaboard units). This train is presumably the Aztec Eagle southbound, N de M train 2. Northbound was train 1. Further information here:
http://www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track10/azteceagle195212.html
RG7
Nate, I can get you pretty close.
I have TP 121006 and 121086, both at Wichita. Now I have to admit they look pretty similar to what I think these cars should look like, with R-3/4 banana taper ends and full channel sidesills.
RG7
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That cobalt blue MP ashtray shows up on eBay from time to time, perhaps the same one that goes unsold. I’ve been reluctant to bid on this one, just because I thought it might be a fake. I’ll look at it more closely the next time it shows up.
Since it showed up with some regularity, it also occurred to me that it might be one of those things like the glass ashtrays, that there’s a box full of them and the seller puts one up every so often, just as a recurring source of income.
RG7
I would say they did, at least until 1961. I haven’t been collecting menus but they show up on eBay with some regularity, both standard menus and menus from special movements. There was a variant menu which had a flap that could be glued shut, with an address space on the other side, which the patron could mail to someone as a souvenir.
RG7
The MP units are promised, sometime “after the first run”.
RG7
There is a Shapeways depressed center flatcar model that I ordered, which came today. The body and trucks are ordered separately. The Shapeways model is linked below, one for the body and one for the three-axle drop-equalizer trucks.
The prototype is also shown, identified as SLSF 3900. The model has the jacking pads located in the same place as MP 1212, later 212, later 863002. The model measures out correctly, and is solid so it’s not obvious at first glance exactly where the weight could go. Another issue I’ve found is that the prototype has 30″ wheels, which are not common in HO model form.
Watch this space for further developments.
There is a different depressed center flatcar also available on Shapeways, which is not as close a match to this car but it does have the bottom of the body open to make room for weight.
RG7
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I have a crappy photo of a depressed center flat that was definitely on the MP, I just can’t tell if it’s one of the similar, but not identical, MP flats we’re discussing or if it’s an unrelated car.
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RG7
In addition to a brakewheel at each end, the diagram shows 2 10″ brake cylinders and 1 AB valve. Presumably the B end is where the AB valve is located.
RG7
Ted:
Excellent shot. Just what I needed, thank you.
Regards,
RG7
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