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I should mention that I already have the two photos from rr-picturearchives, taken by Chuck Zeiler at Cotter in July 1989, and the equipment diagram.
RG7
Yes, I agree. It is for sure not an NOT&M (or MoPac system) caboose.
RG7
I don’t think those were exterior signs on stations, because the ones I saw, before the screaming eagle, were almost always round with no border outside the buzzsaw. It was obviously intended to be hung somewhere, probably outside, with the grommets.
The guy I bought it from was in Milwaukee, so that’s not much of a clue.
RG7
I used to want to build one of these, until I realized they’re a couple years too new for me. I have a question on the gray cars — when these cars were painted gray, did they all get the MPL buzzsaw? I presume the answer is yes. Then cars that got painted a second time probably got the screaming eagle, so probably relatively few did.
But, were all these cars delivered in bare aluminum? My recollection is that they were, and as they sat out in the rain during the summer heat, they gradually turned that very dark gray color that aluminum cookware gets when you put it in the dishwasher, which made the stenciling almost unreadable. is that why they were painted?
Unrelated comment: I can’t log in to the BB from my office, which I presume is due to my company firewall. So I always wait til I get home to read or reply to these messages. But, when I get notice of a post, which comes to me by email at my office address, I can click on it and I get right in.
RG7
I’m as interested in the decals as anything. I’ll send him the font if it would help.
RG7
Well, this is intriguing.
RG7
I’m glad you enlightened us as to how this happened.
RG7
These have good lettering, as do the earlier Atlas versions of this car. I have a few of those, and I recommend them.
Some of these cars, maybe quite a few of them, got some shortened versions of the reporting marks later on repainting, but did not ever get the ‘Eagle’ slogan as far as we know.
RG7
Here are the three I have, all Wichita.
RG7
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Now that I’ve looked at the Accurail USRA box (Accurail 4619), I’d agree. I haven’t tried carving off grabs on a car like this, but I’ll be doing that fairly soon. I can see it’d be easier than carving off ladders from a steel car. The model does have the vertical brakestaff, but if you’re going to carve off grabs, then adding an Ajax power brake won’t be that hard.
And yes, the lettering is quite good, for what I can see on the website.
RG7
I found the list I was looking for, which was scanned in 2009 and sent to me. I’d like to give credit to whoever sent it to me.
This equipment summary of non-revenue equipment from 1949 lists 38 cars called ‘Track and Material’ in the series X903 to X993. No further information is given. No doubt there was once an equipment diagram.
RG7
One thing that’s apparent is that this is a very old car. It has truss rods, archbar trucks and body-mounted brake beams.
Without speculating on exactly what its function was, the car seems to be associated with wreck service. One guess is that the boxcar-like structure in the center of the car contained equipment that needed protection, perhaps chains or tools.
Somewhere I’ve seen an equipment summary for MoW equipment from about 1949, but I can’t come up with it now.
RG7
I have a couple of Charles Winters photos somewhere, I’ll look for grabs vs. ladders.
RG7
Most chlorine shipped in carloads went to large industrial users. I don’t know of ag uses. But chlorine was shipped in one-ton containers on those flat-looking cars, to municipal water treatment plants if nothing else. I shot a couple in Wichita en route to or from Frontier. If a water treatment plant had a siding, they could have received 8000 gallons at a time.
Frontier also made caustic soda, and various organic acids, which would have probably also been shipped in that type of tank car. Again, not a lot of ag uses but maybe I’m not thinking outside the box.
Ammonia would have been a good candidate, and it could have been shipped in that style of tank car. Probably not from the producers that were in the Tangent first round of paint schemes, though. Potentially other fertilizer and related chemicals also.
I don’t know the industries on the northern Kansas branches. Maybe the Circular 140 might have some clues.
RG7
In the 1968 SoE there were 5 cars listed, X192 to X197. I know of X194 being active, and Nate has X195. There was also an X5121 listed as a scale test car.
I believe, before the renumbering, cars in MoW service were assigned numbers at random. I believe, but I can’t prove, that starting in 1961, cars being newly assigned to MoW service were numbered beginning at X14001 and going up sequentially, but cars with old numbers did not get renumbered.
Back to the scale test car, those were the ones in use on the MP system at the time you’re modeling. There was a Hallmark car and there was a Walthers car. I think mine is Hallmark, but the Walthers one is probably nicer detail. I just went upstairs and checked, and mine is not here so it’s in Wichita already, in a big pile of boxes. I think I lettered mine in a manner similar to the one in the photo. It’s painted Floquil reefer orange.
I have a shot of the prototype in transit, right where it’s supposed to be, at the rear of the train right in front of the caboose. It’s not listed in my photo index, so don’t know when I shot it.
RG7
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