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kenrisParticipant
I think we are looking at a distorted photograph. Either the photo was taken with a wide angle lens or a file that was digitized has become elongated and has distorted the apparent length of the car. I believe the car is a standard wood double-sheath 40′ box car.
I resized the photo in PhotoShop and it appears “normal”, but when I post the photo to this BB it becomes distorted again. I also tried posting the photo to the discussion group, but again it was distorted.
Aha!! I opened the file again in PhotoSop and had the message, “This file was created to be viewed on a television monitor” So there is substantial distortion in the image.
Dick Ryker
kenrisParticipantBen,
There really isn’t a model similar to the any of the brick depots MoPac had on the Arkansas Division. The closet place to start would be the Walthers Pella Depot. https://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-3818 It follows some of the lines of the MoPac depots but lacks the open portico that was on many of the prototypes. The MoPac depots were fairly large, and had clay tile roofs, so even scratch building presents a problem in finding suitable roofing. Combining two Pella depots would be a good starting point, but joining the roof so that the tiles align would take some time.
Though it’s a stretch, the Walthers depot seems to most resemble Beebe, AR.
Dick Ryker
kenrisParticipantJim Ogden replied on the MoPac Yahoo group that this is Monroe, LA.
“Monroe, Louisiana. Southbound. Today the store at the far right of the image is still there. This is south of the passenger station.
Jim Ogden”
Dick Ryker
kenrisParticipantThe double sheathed cars could be modeled using a Westerfield kit and substitute wood sides with window openings. Hmmm, need to talk to Mr. Bill at Lake Junction Models. It would be a neat mini-kit. Maybe Westerfield could supply a kit without sides??
Dick Ryker
kenrisParticipantI don’t think this has been previously mentioned, but the large side door was to allow fork-lifts in the car. The floors may have been stiffened to allow this type of use.
Dick Ryker
kenrisParticipantCharlie and all,
Looks as if there were 3 groups of ART cars converted plus two groups of second-hand cars bought from Packers Car Line and FGEX.
112000-599 were converted 1968-71, from ART series 91300-699 (391300-699, TRAX 12000-599)
112600-946 were converted 1971-72 from ART 39000 series
113085-332 were converted 1972 from ART series 37000-249
114000-226 were converted from second hand PCX 4000-4399, originally built 1957
114330-114679 were converted from second hand FHIX 41241-640, built 1956Dick Ryker
July 15, 2015 at 3:46 pm in reply to: For Immediate Release: Fallen Flags Series from Walthers #6780kenrisParticipantJoerg –
Your first guess is correct. I have mixed feelings about the announcement. While it nice to know there will be a group of passenger cars painted and lettered for Missouri Pacific, I’m disappointed that none of the cars are new specifically to this series and many are simply stand-ins for a similarly designed car.
Most critical flaw – not a porthole on any car!
The Missouri Pacific offerings painted as “The Eagle” will include:
Alco PA1
70′ ACF mail storage/baggage w/ modernized doors “Missouri Pacific Lines” (re-release of MoPac car)
85′ Pullman-Standard coach (not MoPac, B&O prototype)
85′ Pullman-Standard diner (not MoPac, Illinois Central prototype)
85′ Budd dome (not MoPac, Canadian Pacific “Skyline” prototype)
85′ Pullman Standard 10-6 sleeper plan 4140, PRR Texas Eagle pool car
85′ Pullman Standard 5-bedroom lounge (not MoPac, actually a PRR 6 bedroom lounge converted to 5 bedrooms)At least this is a step in the right direction, but a 14-4 would have been great for MoPac, B&O and KCS.
kenrisParticipantBill and Charlie –
The car is 10203 a dining-parlor car.The note I have on this photo indicates the photo was taken in Omaha in 1956. If that is correct the photo was probably taken near 16th and Nicholas Sts. as hte train is being pulled from the MoPac yards to Union Station via the UP line adjacent to their shops. The puzzling point, though, is that secondary train # 119/110 running opposite the Eagle was a coach-only train with a grill-coach between Omaha and Kansas City. Trains 119/110 did not carry a dining-parlor. So this is either the “Eagle” with a substitute Parlor or 119 with a substitute for the grill-coach. Being it’s a cloudy day without shadows either case may be true. But given the Eagle departed at 8 a.m., my guess is that this is likely train 119.
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